On the Edge of the World

Our ancestors lived on the edge of the world, and they knew it.

We who live in the European diaspora place ourselves at the center. We’re used to thinking of Europe and North America as the center. Maybe even specifically New York and London because these are, or have been, the world’s commercial and political centers. Before that Paris was the center, and before that Rome.

For our ancestors a thousand, two thousand years ago, Rome was the center. I often hear how Christians imposed their religion on our people. A very romantic notion, but problematic on many levels. Rome had money, power, advanced technology, and an ancient history that far outstripped backwoods and backwards barbarian kingdoms. Our ancestors couldn’t sign up fast enough to join the cool kids. Rome was Christian. Clearly, the Christian god was more powerful and more sophisticated, so get yourself baptized if you want to go further in life.

The proof is in the result. The elites became Christian first; the country folk later. When we look for pagan survivals we look to uneducated country folk, to folklore and remote regions. That in itself tells the story. Conversion would not have happened if the elites hadn’t seen an advantage.

Conversion brought our northern and western European ancestors within Rome’s orbit, but it didn’t put them at the center. They remained at the fringes until they put themselves at the center during the Reformation, the Renaissance, and the Age of Discovery.

We get a sense for this feeling of being at the edge of the world from the early Celtic saints, in the first generations after conversion.

For example, Adomnán says “Although he [St. Columba] lived in this tiny island out at the extremity of the Ocean near Britain, his renown has spread to as far as three-cornered Spain and Gaul, and then beyond the Alps into Italy, and has even reach the head of all the cities: the city of Rome itself.” (Vita Columbae, 3:23, quoted by O’Loughlin, 49).

On the edge, but a part of the whole. O’Loughlin observes that Adomnán saw himself as a member of three communities. He belongs to the Irish people, which he can distinguish from the Picts in Scotland and the Anglo-Saxons in England. He belongs to the Christian people, which links him to other Christians in faraway places and distinguishes him from pagans, Jews, and perhaps Muslims. And he belongs to the family of St. Columba, which connects him to all of humankind through a common descent from Noah (O’Loughlin, 52-53).

An abundance of caution here. I might or not need to point out that our newly converted ancestors must have felt a bit lacking in historical depth. I often point out that we should not be surprised when archaic people are descended from their gods. Our ancestors were no different. The native dynasties were descended from their own gods. They weren’t descended from Biblical characters until they became Christian, accepted the apparently superior historical detail of the Christian scriptures, and adapted their own genealogies to fit the new information.

O’Loughlin makes the point more elliptically, in a way that emphasizes the idea of harmonization rather than conflict between old and new.

Jesus is said to have commanded his followers to “make disciples of all nations” (Matthew 28:19-20). This meant the newly converted peoples were nations, on par with the more ancient nations of the apparently older, more civilized world.

This notion of a ‘nation’ (gens) hearing the Word became an enduring theme in insular writing not only among the Celtic peoples, but was transmitted by them to the Anglo-Saxons and can be seen in Bede. . . . Their own cultural reality was not seen by them as submerged into ‘Christendom’, rather they now stood among the People of God as a nation. This perception of Christianity as the gospel spreading through nation after nation goes along way towards explaining why we do not have extensive evidence for clashes between the old and new religions. This is so much at odds with what we have seen of the work of missionaries in recent centuries that we find it hard to imagine the arrival of Christianity as anything other than the destruction of local consciousness through the importation of a foreign cult” (O’Loughlin, 55).

But even as the new converts were brought into the world of civilized nations, their experience was different.

When we contrast the experience of someone like Eucherius in Lyons reading the Scriptures with that of someone in Ireland a few generations later, we see a massive cultural shift. Eucherius lived in a great city, Lyons, in the same empire within which Jesus had lived; he had Greek contacts around him, and even when he read the Scriptures in translation it was in his own language, Latin. A story of Christ going to the city of Jerusalem, its great temple, and being tried by the governor was all firmly within his own world. The Christian in Ireland fifty years later had not seen a city, had to learn a foreign language to read, and had to imagine the event by analogy with his surroundings. While he may have had a store of local religious traditions, customs and laws, and a body of history, this did not come with the dignity of writing to support it, and the process of rendering his own speech in writing was just beginning. In this he anticipated many Christians who would hear the gospel in centuries to come, and like those later people he probably felt that he was the poor man at the feast” (O’Loughlin, 61).

My thought when I read this is that Christianity was alien to world of the north and west Europeans, and in many respects it still is.

Pagan Reconstruction

I like to watch Neo-pagan, Heathen, and Reconstructionist videos on YouTube. And, we have customers who follow these and related paths.

It’s all very magical and mystical and romantic, but it seems a mirage to me. I’m a minority voice here. We know so little and no one likes to hear that the light on their path is coming from within themselves and not from an ancient tradition.

I’ll give just one, negligible example. A few months ago a woman on Twitter, a self-identifying Heathen, was moaning because someone she knows, a Jewish woman, used the Valknut. Very sus, she thought, because the woman doesn’t even know what it means. That should strike us all as bizarre, but it’s a level of naïveté I see every day. Truth is, none of us know what the Valknut signified. We only know the various meanings the Heathen community today has invented.

Those old religions cannot realistically be reconstructed. Maybe just a few pieces used for glitter and spice in a modern path. Thomas O’Loughlin, writing about Celtic Christianity, says it very well.

Because we are dealing with fragments and trying to overhear the conversations of faith of a past era, there can be no question of producing a ‘Celtic Path’ of spirituality. A path assumes that you can cover the ground, and map its ups and down, and give a fullsome description. Rather, we are going to look at individual events and texts on different topics: we are going, as it were, to chat to walkers here and there along the path which we cannot see in its entirely.” (O’Loughlin, 33)

Going further along the same lines, “spirituality is always embedded in a place, within a culture and its hopes, fears and expectations.” (O’Loughlin, 49) We’ll all learn that; I’m sure of it.

LARPing tribalism

I don’t understand the reason so many modern heathens and neo-pagans are drawn to fantasies of re-creating antique tribalism.

I don’t think they understand the idea of tribes. That’s why I see it as LARPing. Our ancestors used tribe as a synonym for ethnicity and nationality. The Saxons were a tribe; the Franks were a tribe. In Latin, gens (plural gentes).

Many modern heathens confuse our modern colloquial use of the word tribe to mean simply community to mean the same thing as the tribes of our ancestors. It’s not. I belong to the tribe of Denver Broncos fans, but I don’t confuse the other fans with my ethnicity, nationality, or family.

It’s noteworthy, I think, that when the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes invaded what is now England in, let’s call it the 5th century, they settled in tribal regions but ultimately melted into a pot of just English. When the Norwegians settled Iceland and Greenland in, say the 9th and 11th centuries, they didn’t try to preserve their antique tribal heritage and didn’t set up new tribes. I could go on in this vein, but I think the point is clear.

Sure, over time, newly settled communities tend to become interrelated. At least, historically, and because of relatively low mobility. My mother comes from a little town in Wyoming. There was a Pony Express station there in the 1860s, but settlement in the area didn’t really begin until 1912, or so. By about 1961 every family in the valley was connected by blood or marriage to every other family.

It took just 50 years for that melting pot to get a good start. How much longer would it be for a clan to emerge from the town? Or for the locals to see themselves as a different ethnicity or tribe? And could a new tribe even emerge in a town politically integrated into a larger area, even if geographical mobility were fairly low?

It seems modern heathens are in rush to create an artificial structure. Are they reading too many fantasy novels? Why do they think they need to consciously create something that in the past happened organically? And why do they imagine a little group of a dozen or a few dozen people carries the same weight and importance as an ethnic group of thousands?

I don’t buy it. My belief buddies and praxis pals are my community, not my clan, not my tribe.

Eric Sjerven’s YouTube channel provides an example of modern usage. Nice guy, and I often enjoy his videos, but I part ways with him here.

Ceisiwr Serith

Update: I’m re-reading Ceisiwr Serith. He makes this same point:

“Worship in the home comes first, but gathering a few like-minded households together is certainly fun, and the increase in the talent pool gives greater possibilities to learn. A Proto-Indo-European word which can be used for such a group is *wiks (Latin vicus, “town,” Gothic weihs, “village, domain” (Benveniste, 1969:251)). This is not a clan or a tribe, since those are essentially extended families, but more like a village (emphasis added).”

For “clan” and “tribe”, substitute “kindred.”

  • Serith, Ceisiwr, Deep Ancestors (Tucson: ADF Publishing, 2007), p. 102.

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Coping with Eostre

Many neo-pagans resist scholarship because it destroys the fantasy.

Every possible religion that ever was and is is the result of a cultural soup with borrowed elements from everywhere and there is no such thing as a pure, unique, and original religious background. It was like that in the past and it is like this nowadays.”

Religions evolve, change, become better and that’s the way it should be, and not being stagnated. Clinging on to things that no longer makes sense, because whether you like it or not we are always in a constant state of evolution.

Indigenous Religion

I like this post about indigenous religion by ReligionForBreakfast.

YouTube video by ReligionForBreakfast

There are some important points here. My neo-pagan chums often have a weak understanding of indigenous religions, even though that’s what they are trying to recreate from the fragments of their own past.

  • Place, relationship to land
  • Power, sacredness located in the landscape
  • Protocol, ceremonial obligations

This is just the tip of the iceberg. Watch the video and think about the ways your own practice measures up. Or doesn’t.

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  • Religion For Breakfast, “Intro to Indigenous Religions,” YouTube, Jan. 30, 2020.

Dying into the Mountain

If you learned Old Norse religion from children’s book, as many of us did, you might have a too simplistic idea about the afterlife. Likely, you think most men were warriors so they went to Valhöll, Odin’s hall in Ásgard.

Maybe so, but there’s more difference of opinion among scholars than you might know, and there was probably also far more complexity.

The stories we have were recorded in Christian times, which makes them late and arguably unreliable to some degree. By the time they were written down the oral culture that produced them was already being transformed by new ideas imported from Romanized Christianity.

In pre-Christian times, it seems likely the Scandinavians had only a generalized idea of an underworld (“Hel“). This seems to have been the belief common among European cultures. The soul might or might not have been something separate from the body. No one is quite sure how much of that is due to Christian influence. Personally, I’m inclined to think our ancestors had a tripartite soul, so I tend to see it as body, soul, and spirit; three components separating at death. That’s a debate for another day.

Systematized ideas about the “Nine Worlds” and the halls of different gods probably date to Christian times, and probably evolved in response to Christian notions of Heaven and Hell.

In pre-Christian times the dead went to live underground, in burial mounds (or somewhere near the place of interment). If the soul separated from the body, it was probably not a far separation, perhaps only as far as the nearest burial mound or mountain. Rudolf Simek (2007) says some mountains in southern Sweden that were believed to house the dead were called Valhall. Their relationship to Odin’s hall is not clear.

For our ancestors, the dead were the alfar (“elves”), to whom offerings were made. They evolved into genii locorum (“spirits of place”) who go by various names now; tomtar, nisser, brownies, and so on. These protective beings represented the first farmer to clear the forest and establish the homestead there.

The story of Þórolfr Mostrarskegg in Eyrbyggja saga, although very late, shows how this belief might have worked in practice. Þórolfr was a pioneer of Iceland. He gave Helgafell (“Holy Mountain”) its name and designated it as a sacred place. He believed he and his descendants would “die into the mountain.” That is, they would go to live inside the mountain when they died. Notice: in death they do not travel back to Norway to join their ancestors there. Instead, they pioneer a death-place in the new land.

This story is said to have been confirmed when Þórolfr’s son Þorsteinn drowned. A local fisherman saw the mountain open up, and heard Þórolfur welcoming Þorsteinn to the feast that was taking place inside.

So, what about a separable soul? Again, Eyrbyggja saga is a late and potentially unreliable source. We have a drowned man, one whose body was apparently not recovered, yet he joins his father in their family’s holy mountain. His soul must have separated from his body. Was it that way in the original? We don’t know. It could be Christian influence. Or not.

Many of my neo-pagan friends are attached to their ideas about Valhöll and Fólkvangr, and all that. Too much glitter for me. Aesthetically, I far prefer the idea dying into the land, or — since I live in Denver — dying into the mountain. Presumably Mt. Evans. There’s something very basic here that transcends both historical pedantry and romanticized fantasy.

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  • Justin Durand, “Viking Mortuary House.” Pagan Cowboy, Oct. 21, 2019.

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Pagan vs Post-Christian

C.S. Lewis asks, “Are there any Pagans in England for me to write to? I know that people keep on telling us that this country is relapsing into Paganism. But they only mean that it is ceasing to be Christian. And is that at all the same thing?

He thinks not. They’re very different things.

To say that modern people who have drifted away from Christianity are Pagans is to suggest that a post-Christian man is the same as a pre-Christian man. And that is like thinking . . . a street where the houses have been knocked down is the same as a field where no house has yet been built. . . . Rubble, dust, broken bottles, old bedsteads and stray cats are very different from grass, thyme, clover, buttercups and a lark singing overhead.

Because it’s Lewis, you know there will be a pitch for Christianity. It’s what he’s known for. And here it is. Pagans and Christians have in common religiosity, a belief in objective right and wrong, and a sense that it impossible to be perfect.

Post-Christians have lost it all. If you start as post-Christian, you must go through paganism to Christianity. “All that Christianity adds to paganism is the cure.”

It is hard to have patience with those Jeremiahs, in Press or pulpit, who warn us that we are “lapsing into Paganism.” It might be rather fun if we were. It would be pleasant to see some future Prime Minister trying to kill a large and lively milk-white bull in Westminster Hall. But we shan’t. What lurks behind such idle prophecies, if they are anything but careless language, is the false idea that the historical process allows mere reversal; that Europe can come out of Christianity “by the same door as in she went” and find herself back where she was. It is not what happens. A post-Christian man is not a Pagan; you might as well think that a married woman recovers her virginity by divorce. The post-Christian is cut off from the Christian past and therefore doubly from the Pagan past.

It looks to me, neighbours, as though we shall have to set about becoming true Pagans if only as a preliminary to becoming Christians.

It’s always a pleasure to read C.S. Lewis. He organizes his thoughts so cogently that even if you don’t agree, he sets you to thinking.

America is a Religion

Just finished watching “Americans Are Religious About America“. That rings some bells.

Basically, American Civil Religion is when Americans are religious about America. The series argues that Americans are being religious when they create and curate American identity and ideals.”

Robert Bellah says, “The phrase ‘civil religion’ is, of course, Rousseau’s. In chapter 8, book 4 of The Social Contract, he outlines the simple dogmas of the civil religion: the existence of God, the life to come, the reward of virtue and the punishment of vice, and the exclusion of religious intolerance. All other religious opinions are outside the cognizance of the state and may be freely held by citizens. While the phrase ‘civil religion’ was not used, to the best of my knowledge, by the founding fathers, and I am certainly not arguing for the particular influence of Rousseau, it is clear that similar ideas, as part of the cultural climate of the late eighteenth century, were to be found among the Americans.

There was a thing briefly, 10 or 11 years ago I think, that takes it further. One of my Roman neo-pagan chums–I can’t remember who it was–posted for awhile about launching an American neo-paganism constructed consciously along Roman lines. I can’t find it now, might have been at LiveJournal, so I’m relying on memory. The idea was that it makes no sense for Americans to hold on to European (or other) gods. We declared our civil independence, so why not our religious independence?

For a project like that, Rome was an easy choice. The new American republic was modeled in part on the Roman republic. When America was founded, Neoclassicism was a major cultural and political influence in both Europe and America.

I was quite taken with this idea, in part because of my deep roots in America and in part because of the logical consistency. I had a website at ReligioAmericana. Very briefly. I can’t find any of its content now, but there wasn’t anything memorable.

I don’t remember much about the social conversation. There was stuff about heroes, holidays, and monuments. I do remember some of them. Dea America (perhaps aka Our Lady of Guadalupe), Columbia, Lady Liberty, the deified George Washington, and all the company of Founders; the patriotic holidays; and the national monuments and battle fields.

I can understand all that. When I was growing up the lamp on my nightstand was a bronze cast of George Washington praying before the Battle of Valley Forge. Definitely a religious piece, as well as a heritage piece. The lamp had belonged to my (step) father and his father before me. My grandfather was George Washington Place. I’m guessing his name was the reason for buying the lamp.

That was the year I added Fortuna Denveriensis and her festival on November 22 to my calendar. In the classical world every city had its local Fortuna. I wouldn’t want to risk not honoring Denver’s.

I also remember a post about the importance of rivers in classical paganism. So, Dea Plata for the patron deity of the Platte River that runs through Denver. Once upon a time I knew the Latinized deities of other American rivers. Now I remember Chalchiuhtlicue but not the re-named Colorado River or Green River. How strange is that?

I think my dad would have been pleased. He believed and taught that foreign religions could not take root in America. The land would reject them. He was thinking of the lure of American Indian religions, but a Romanized American paganism seems like it might be another possibility.

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Asuras and Devas

One of the more interesting questions in religious history is why there is a divide and reversal between the asuras and the devas.

If you’ve made a serious study of religions this divide is old hat. If you haven’t heard of it until now, you can begin to see it easily and quickly just by watching for it. I noticed it before I ever heard about it. From a Christian perspective our word devil must certainly be related to our word deity, and also to the Hindu word deva. From there it just spirals into endless fascination.

Michael York phrases it this way, “The divine-asurian duality I posit rests on an attempt to explain the Indo-Iranian dichotomy in which the Vedic devas or deities versus the asuras or demons becomes inverted into an antagonism between the Avestan demonic daevas and the ‘angelic’ ahuras headed by Lord Mazda. A further variant of this mythogen is the conflict between the Norse aesir headed by Odin and a unbeatable race of beings called the vanir. 1 The dismemberment of Tyr reflects the temporary impairment of the divine hypostasis which in Scandinavian myth has become permanent as the aesir or Odin successfully gain the pre-eminent position. The much wider survival of the *dei– cognates throughout the IE daughter languages reveals the earlier central placement of the divine devas.

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Linking Religion to Ethnicity

Some interesting thoughts here. Ethnicity, language, religion, and race are not entirely independent variables. Traditional pagans won’t be surprised by that.

This particular discussion reminds me of something I often hear from Jewish friends — if go back just a few generations, you run into a solid wall of orthodoxy. The ancestors of modern Jews are never anything but Orthodox.

It’s the same for Christianity in the European diaspora, although not many people I know are willing to acknowledge it.

Ironically, the neo-paganism that draws on our European ethnicity, begins by discarding our actual ethnicity. Go to a Lutheran church in modern America and you’ll discover a big chunk of Germans and Scandinavians; the people whose ancestors in Europe were Lutherans. It works for other churches as well.

I might be a bit more sensitive to that because I belong to another culture that approaches being an ethno-religious group–the Mormons. Not that I’m a Mormon, but I’m not exactly not Mormon either. I prefer to call myself an Ethnic Mormon. Nearly all my close relatives are Mormon, and I grew up inside the “Zion Curtain” (the Intermountain West). But if Mormonism were really an ethnicity, I would have to count myself only 1/8 Mormon. It just happens, in my case, to be the pot everyone melts into.